Wednesday, September 29, 2004

a response to "putting the cat out"

yusuf islam never claimed that any civil rights were violated. he stated that he was "victim of an unjust and arbitrary system, hastily imposed, that serves only to belittle America's image as a defender of the civil liberties." i’m with yusuf on this one.

you would have wished he said: ". . .That such a bureaucratic incident occurred is to be expected." i don't think he believes this is a bureaucratic incident. our government needs to be prepared to provide--on a case-by-case basis—evidence as to why some may not be able to enter the u.s. this may be an inconvenience for our law enforcement, but the way this situation stands now, our government is behaving like the gestapo. this is from wikipedia:

"The role of the Gestapo was to investigate and combat "all tendencies dangerous to the State." It had the authority to investigate treason, espionage and sabotage cases, and cases of criminal attacks on the National-Sosialistic Party and on Germany.

The law had been changed in such a way that the Gestapo's actions were not restricted by judicial review. The Nazi jurist, Dr. Werner Best, stated, "As long as the [Gestapo]... carries out the will of the leadership, it is acting legally." The Gestapo was specifically exempted from being responsible to administrative courts, where citizens normally could sue the state to conform to laws."

unless he's lying, he states in his la times commentary, "It was only when an immigration official read out to me a legal reference number that he mentioned some implication with 'terrorism' — no further details necessary." so there actually was a reference to the "t" word from an agent of our government concerning his deportation.

you, me, and yusuf can all agree that his ordeal would not compare to the ordeals of all the hostages in iraq. but while you are comparing ordeals let's not forget the current ordeals of the relatives and loved ones of the 13,000 to 15,000 civilians killed by the military intervention in iraq. that's a lot of ordeals.

finally, islam’s thirty-some years of working for the welfare of children and his consistent message of peace is an indication that he is doing more than giving lip service. check this article out where it is reported that he pleads directly to the radicals of his religion: “As a member of the Muslim Council I request you, in the name of Allah, the Rahman, to release the British citizen, Ken Bigley for the good name of our religion and according to the sayings of Allah in the glorious Qur'an,”


Jeffrey Hill said...

Come now, Mat, the Gestapo?

mat said...

democracy abhors undue secrecy

Steve said...

Considering that Ashcroft wants to contest the Court ruling on the imposed secrecy aspect of PATRIOT act covered investigations... I'm willing to agree with the Gestapo comparison.

Jeffrey Hill said...

What was secret about Mr. Steven's deportation? It was in the news the day that it happened, we knew where the plane was diverted, we knew when he and his daughter were sent back to England. Mr. Stevens has made several statements regarding the incident. The only thing that we do not know is the precise reason he was on the list. Undue secrecy, Gestapo style, would be if Cat's fan club was wondering where he was for the past week, but had know idea.

BTW - Steve, I'm shocked to see that you associate Ashcroft with Goering.